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03/30/2016 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= SB 113 NEW DRUGS FOR THE TERMINALLY ILL TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 113(HSS) Out of Committee
+= SB 156 INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR CONTRACEPTIVES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 156(HSS) Out of Committee
*+ SB 179 BAN LATE TERM ABORTION; CHILD SURRENDER TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
         SB 179-BAN LATE TERM ABORTION; CHILD SURRENDER                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:42:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEDMAN announced the consideration of SB 179.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:42:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  JOHN  COGHILL,  Alaska State  Legislature,  as  sponsor,                                                               
introduced SB 179. He explained that  the bill provides that if a                                                               
baby is  found to  be viable  under a  doctor's judgement,  and a                                                               
mother  requests an  abortion, the  baby would  be delivered  and                                                               
given up as a child in need  of aid. He noted that "viability" is                                                               
a  new  concept  in  law.  The  bill  repeals  the  partial-birth                                                               
abortion ban that has been found unconstitutional.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He  referred  to  a  booklet that  contains  several  studies  on                                                               
abortion. It shows  which states and countries  have various bans                                                               
on abortions. The U.S. is only  one of seven countries out of 198                                                               
that permit  elective abortions  past 20 weeks.  The U.S  fits in                                                               
between allowing  bans between 20  to 22 weeks. He  discussed the                                                               
survival  rate at  various weeks.  He referred  to a  Gallop Poll                                                               
that  found  that  80  percent  say during  the  last  months  of                                                               
pregnancy, the fetus should be treated as viable.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:47:05 PM                                                                                                                    
He discussed  Roe v.  Wade and said  the Supreme  Court maintains                                                               
that states  have an interest in  protecting the life of  a fetus                                                               
after viability  - the  point at  which the  fetus is  capable of                                                               
living outside the womb. He read  that the compelling point is at                                                               
viability and the state may go  as far as prohibiting abortion at                                                               
that period, except to preserve the life of the mother.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
He stated that Planned Parenthood  v. Central Missouri upheld the                                                               
viability   clause,   as   did   Planned   Parenthood   v.   S.E.                                                               
Pennsylvania. The  bill tries to  protect the life of  the mother                                                               
and fetus, and allows the  doctor to determine viability. He used                                                               
another example  of Gonzales v.  Carhart to make his  point about                                                               
the viability clause.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:50:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL  concluded  that  he has  tried  to  maintain  a                                                               
women's right, as well as  viability. He concluded that viability                                                               
is  the big  question  when  determining the  value  of life.  He                                                               
referred to  wording on page  2, lines  11 - 13,  which addresses                                                               
the  clinical judgment  of a  doctor to  determine viability.  He                                                               
highlighted  Section   1  regarding  when  an   abortion  may  be                                                               
performed. He  discussed DHSS's  involvement regarding  CINA when                                                               
the state takes custody of the child.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:52:21 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  ELLIS asked  about the  phrase "meaningful  life" as  it                                                               
applies to viability.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  said that  is his  own term.  The legal  term is                                                               
viability and there is a definition  of viability in the bill and                                                               
it is dependent on a doctor's integrity.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEDMAN asked whether Legislative  Legal has concerns about                                                               
SB 179.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
RYNNIEVA  MOSS,   Staff,  Senator  John  Coghill,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, presented  information on  SB 179  on behalf  of the                                                               
sponsor.  She said  Legislative  Legal has  no  legal opinion  of                                                               
version W.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:54:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STOLTZE  asked whether  the  term  is "unborn  baby"  or                                                               
"fetus."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  said "fetus"  means  "baby"  and he  uses  them                                                               
interchangeably.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He  thanked the  committee for  hearing  the bill.  He noted  the                                                               
issue  has been  hotly debated.  It is  about a  baby that  could                                                               
survive  an  unwanted  pregnancy.  He said  an  abortion  can  be                                                               
performed and still  have a live birth and  viability becomes the                                                               
question. SB  179 is  important for Alaska  where "we  value life                                                               
very  highly." It  is a  move  in the  right direction  and is  a                                                               
matter that  must be argued  under the  auspices of the  law. The                                                               
bill has respect for  the life of a woman and  the child, who may                                                               
not be wanted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:55:58 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  ELLIS asked  who files  the CINA  petition and  what the                                                               
burden on the state is.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS explained  that if the child is  unwanted, the physician                                                               
or  health  practitioner  would   contact  Office  of  Children's                                                               
Services (OCS) who would take custody of the child.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS asked if OCS would  designate that child as a child                                                               
in need of aid.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOSS said yes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:57:16 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR STEDMAN held SB 179 in committee.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 156 - Updated Sectional for version N.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 156
CSSB 156 version.N.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB 156 - Letter of Support AK Pharmacists.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB 156 - Letter in Support_Dr. Tina Tomsen, Anchorage Womens Clinic.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB 156 - Letter of Support Barbara McDaniel.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB 156 - Letter of Support Kachemak Bay Family Planning CLinic.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB 156 - Letter of Support Pamela Jo Rahn.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 156
SB 179 version W.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 - Sponsor Statement.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 - Ohio Senate.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 113 - Fiscal Note.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 113
SB 156 Explination of Changes updated.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 156
S B 179 - Leg. Legal opinion.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179 - Planned Parenthood memo.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 - Letter of Support.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 VIABLE CHILD PROTECTION ACT.pptx SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 American-Reports-Series-INTERNATIONAL-ABORTION-NORMS Feb 14.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 Guttmacher Institute_Overview of Abortion Laws.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 Guttmacher Institute_State Facts About Abortion.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 Premature Babies Survive at 22 weeks if Treated.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 Sectional for SB 179.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 Sponsor Statement.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
Version W with Repealer Language.pdf SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179
SB 179 Letter of Opposition - Cyndy Cox.PDF SHSS 3/30/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 179